Suggestion For The List

  • Hellow,
    just a quick suggestion … Could the list owners put (xcode) or something in the subject line?  It'll be a lot easier for those of us on multiple lists to put rules according to subject rather than messing around with who they're to or from.
    Thanks,
    Harmony.
  • On 6/6/13, 1:37 PM, Harmony Neil wrote:
    > Hellow,
    > just a quick suggestion ... Could the list owners put (xcode) or something in the subject line?  It'll be a lot easier for those of us on multiple lists to put rules according to subject rather than messing around with who they're to or from.
    The lists include a list-id header (for this list it says "Community
    supported Xcode help list <xcode-users.lists.apple.com>".

    In gmail, you can add a filter

    Has the words
    list:"xcode-users.lists.apple.com"

    and whatever you want with it (assign a label, move it trash or whatever)

    In fact select any mail from the list in gmail and say filter messages
    like these and it will come up with this filter.

    Desktop mail clients  should let you filter on the list-id header. (In
    mail.app you'll need to add the list-id header in the edit header list
    in the Add rules section first)
    It is best done by a server side filter (like the one gmail lets you create.

    > Thanks,
    > Harmony.
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  • On Jun 6, 2013, at 14:22 , Vivek <vivek.sforge...> wrote:

    > The lists include a list-id header (for this list it says "Community supported Xcode help list <xcode-users.lists.apple.com>".

    That's how I do it in Mail.app. Unfortunately, people have to reply-all because the default reply-to is not the list, but the OP, and often it's nice to directly include the people in that thread. But then I end up with two copies of each message, only one of which has the List-ID header in it.

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    Rick
  • On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Harmony Neil <harmony.neil...> wrote:
    > just a quick suggestion … Could the list owners put (xcode) or something in the subject line?

    Let's please not add gratuitous verbiage to the Subject line. That means that much less room to see the actual subject on-screen.

    Instead, look at the List-Id header. It will contain, for example, xcode-users.lists.apple.com.

    If you're using Mail, there's a bug, which I filed but Apple closed as a duplicate, that headers are not always all present when a message first arrives. My filter script detects a missing Recieved header as an indication that other headers are missing too, and marks the message as needing to be re-examined 4 seconds later. After three 4-second deferrals with full headers not forthcoming, the script gives up and leaves the message in my Inbox. Once all the headers are present, mail sent to the address I gave the list but not containing a List-Id header are either spam or someone trying to reply off-list, which I junk either way.

    The deferral is handled by marking the message somehow (I use an otherwise-unused background color), and invoking a shell script, (once, no matter how many messages get deferred) with:

    do shell script "~/bin/check_deferred_mail undefer &>/dev/null &"

    That shell script is:

    #!/bin/bash

    scripts=~/Library/"Application Scripts"/com.apple.mail
    lockname=${TMPDIR:=$(/usr/bin/getconf DARWIN_USER_TEMP_DIR)}/deferred_mail.lock
    command=${1:-unread}

    if [[ "$command" = undefer ]]; then /bin/sleep 4; fi
    /usr/bin/lockfile -l 60 "$lockname"
    /usr/bin/osascript "$scripts/ErstesoftCentral.scpt" "${command}"
    rm -f "$lockname"

    The AppleScript it invokes is the same one I have Mail use to filter the messages. It knows, from the fact that its run handler was invoked with an "undefer" command, that it should build a list of messages marked deferred. (By way of contrast, when Mail calls the script, it does so by invoking the "perform mail action with messages" handler with the list of new messages pre-built.)

    -Ron Hunsinger
  • Heh. I have to do reply all too, but I believe that's part of the list settings itself.  I run 3 mailing lists myself and I put the list name in the subject line so people at least know where it's coming from.  I sometimes put rules according to who they're to or from, but then replies don't go there. Blah.
    And sorry if I annoyed anyone, but it was only a suggestion.
  • Can anyone help me, why i don't have the rights to post to the list.

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    On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Rick Mann <rmann...> wrote:

    >
    > On Jun 6, 2013, at 14:22 , Vivek <vivek.sforge...> wrote:
    >
    >> The lists include a list-id header (for this list it says "Community supported Xcode help list <xcode-users.lists.apple.com>".
    >
    > That's how I do it in Mail.app. Unfortunately, people have to reply-all because the default reply-to is not the list, but the OP, and often it's nice to directly include the people in that thread. But then I end up with two copies of each message, only one of which has the List-ID header in it.
    >
    > --
    > Rick
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