FROM : Andy Lee
DATE : Tue May 27 23:04:26 2008
On May 27, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Quincey Morris wrote:
> On May 27, 2008, at 11:50, Andy Lee wrote:
>> If you look at the rest of my original suggestion (before the
>> clarification above), I suggested the term "Nib's Loader" as a
>> replacement for "File's Owner", which would connote something
>> behavioral: "I'm the object that loaded this nib."
>
> Yes, I agree it's simpler, but I really do think you'd need to test
> it out on some unsuspecting victims before you could be sure it was
> eliminating the part of the complexity that's actually causing the
> difficulty.
>
> Putting this the other way round, I'm not sure that the answer is to
> give File's Owner or Nib's Loader behavior that justifies its name,
> but rather to give it a unobjectionable name that justifies its
> (lack of) behavior -- if anyone can come up with such a name.
Beyond convenience, I think it makes sense conceptually to think of
the owner as doing the loading. But if the idea didn't jump out at
you that way, maybe it wouldn't to other people either.
Anyway, I doubt I'll accomplish much by pushing the idea further, so
I'll back out of this thread too.
--Andy
DATE : Tue May 27 23:04:26 2008
On May 27, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Quincey Morris wrote:
> On May 27, 2008, at 11:50, Andy Lee wrote:
>> If you look at the rest of my original suggestion (before the
>> clarification above), I suggested the term "Nib's Loader" as a
>> replacement for "File's Owner", which would connote something
>> behavioral: "I'm the object that loaded this nib."
>
> Yes, I agree it's simpler, but I really do think you'd need to test
> it out on some unsuspecting victims before you could be sure it was
> eliminating the part of the complexity that's actually causing the
> difficulty.
>
> Putting this the other way round, I'm not sure that the answer is to
> give File's Owner or Nib's Loader behavior that justifies its name,
> but rather to give it a unobjectionable name that justifies its
> (lack of) behavior -- if anyone can come up with such a name.
Beyond convenience, I think it makes sense conceptually to think of
the owner as doing the loading. But if the idea didn't jump out at
you that way, maybe it wouldn't to other people either.
Anyway, I doubt I'll accomplish much by pushing the idea further, so
I'll back out of this thread too.
--Andy
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