FROM : Gregory Weston
DATE : Mon May 26 21:55:01 2008
Erik Buck wrote:
> For those who consider themselves intermediate to advanced Cocoa
> programmers, how long was the journey from newbie to competent and
> from competent to advanced ? What percentage of your time did you
> dedicate over how many months ?
>
> Maybe we can establish a standard distribution of learning time
> required. Just having a basis to set expectations might help future
> newbies.
I think it depends a lot on the nature of the newbie. I came to Cocoa
already quite comfortable with Smalltalk (and a bit of dabbling in
Objective-C some time in the early '90s) and familiar with several
frameworks and class libraries. Getting comfortable with Cocoa really
didn't take very long.
In trying to help other people along over the last several years, I
think I'd say that the single biggest stumbling block I see is not
with the framework but an aversion to the "weirdness" of Objective-C
syntax. That seems to be a huge problem for a surprising-to-me number
of people.
DATE : Mon May 26 21:55:01 2008
Erik Buck wrote:
> For those who consider themselves intermediate to advanced Cocoa
> programmers, how long was the journey from newbie to competent and
> from competent to advanced ? What percentage of your time did you
> dedicate over how many months ?
>
> Maybe we can establish a standard distribution of learning time
> required. Just having a basis to set expectations might help future
> newbies.
I think it depends a lot on the nature of the newbie. I came to Cocoa
already quite comfortable with Smalltalk (and a bit of dabbling in
Objective-C some time in the early '90s) and familiar with several
frameworks and class libraries. Getting comfortable with Cocoa really
didn't take very long.
In trying to help other people along over the last several years, I
think I'd say that the single biggest stumbling block I see is not
with the framework but an aversion to the "weirdness" of Objective-C
syntax. That seems to be a huge problem for a surprising-to-me number
of people.
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