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Re: Guidance for Cocoa's steep learning curve
FROM : David Casseres
DATE : Thu May 22 06:12:12 2008
Yes.
For detailed guidance, buy Aaron Hillegass's book Cocoa Programming
for Mac OS X, and go through it from beginning to end, doing every
exercise and every challenge. I have done that with the first two
editions and am about to do it with the third, and I promise you it's
a good way to learn and re-learn Cocoa. Based on that I'm now
gainfully employed writing an iPhone application.
On May 15, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>
> On 15 May '08, at 5:03 PM, mmalc crawford wrote:
>
>> My guidance for Cocoa's alleged "steep learning curve" is, "Why are
>> you making it steep?"
>> It reminds me of the clichéd joke: "Doctor, it hurts when I do
>> this." "Well, don't do that."
>
> I agree. There are so many questions on this list from people who
> are clearly Cocoa newbies, who are trying to do really difficult/
> advanced things.
>
> If you're learning Cocoa, just write something straightforward like
> a simple app, like the CurrencyConverter or whatever. Learn the
> basics of how to write action methods, wire up an interface in IB,
> and do basic things with Foundation classes. Add features one at a
> time ... documents, copy and paste, drag and drop, whatever. Just
> don't try to start out all at once with CoreData and XML and
> AppleScript and accessing other apps' windows!
>
> —Jens_______________________________________________
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DATE : Thu May 22 06:12:12 2008
Yes.
For detailed guidance, buy Aaron Hillegass's book Cocoa Programming
for Mac OS X, and go through it from beginning to end, doing every
exercise and every challenge. I have done that with the first two
editions and am about to do it with the third, and I promise you it's
a good way to learn and re-learn Cocoa. Based on that I'm now
gainfully employed writing an iPhone application.
On May 15, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>
> On 15 May '08, at 5:03 PM, mmalc crawford wrote:
>
>> My guidance for Cocoa's alleged "steep learning curve" is, "Why are
>> you making it steep?"
>> It reminds me of the clichéd joke: "Doctor, it hurts when I do
>> this." "Well, don't do that."
>
> I agree. There are so many questions on this list from people who
> are clearly Cocoa newbies, who are trying to do really difficult/
> advanced things.
>
> If you're learning Cocoa, just write something straightforward like
> a simple app, like the CurrencyConverter or whatever. Learn the
> basics of how to write action methods, wire up an interface in IB,
> and do basic things with Foundation classes. Add features one at a
> time ... documents, copy and paste, drag and drop, whatever. Just
> don't try to start out all at once with CoreData and XML and
> AppleScript and accessing other apps' windows!
>
> —Jens_______________________________________________
>
> Cocoa-dev mailing list (<email_removed>)
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