FROM : Kevin Grant
DATE : Sat May 17 01:57:19 2008
Wikis like CocoaDev can be nice for filling these gaps. I find
it helpful to see not only the articles, which are usually
practical, but also visitor comments.
For example, someone can easily add a statement to a 4-year-old
page, pointing out a new approach that works better. Or, a
debate can begin, where people show multiple solutions or point
out problems they've had.
Kevin G.
> On May 16, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Erik Buck wrote:
>> [Re-post from http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/message/cocoa/2007/8/20/188026
>> ]
>
> That was well worth reposting.
>
> This may partly answer my question about why people don't notice or
> study the concepts docs. Maybe we're too used to clicking on search
> results and getting fast answers to small questions; we're not used
> to methodically reading introductory material and building a
> foundation of understanding, at least not to the extent required by
> Cocoa.
>
> When I was a NextStep programmer, it was clear to me that concepts
> docs came first, then reference docs. I don't know if NeXT did all
> that much to reinforce that mindset. It may just have been because
> I hadn't been spoiled on Google yet.
>
> (Not to knock Google. Searching for "blah site:developer.apple.com"
> is often -- not always, but often -- *much* more likely to return
> relevant hits than searching with the Xcode documentation window. I
> assume this is because Google has much more data and better
> algorithms to be able to assign relevancy to web pages. On the
> other hand, Google can't do a "Contains" search.)
>
> --Andy
DATE : Sat May 17 01:57:19 2008
Wikis like CocoaDev can be nice for filling these gaps. I find
it helpful to see not only the articles, which are usually
practical, but also visitor comments.
For example, someone can easily add a statement to a 4-year-old
page, pointing out a new approach that works better. Or, a
debate can begin, where people show multiple solutions or point
out problems they've had.
Kevin G.
> On May 16, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Erik Buck wrote:
>> [Re-post from http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/message/cocoa/2007/8/20/188026
>> ]
>
> That was well worth reposting.
>
> This may partly answer my question about why people don't notice or
> study the concepts docs. Maybe we're too used to clicking on search
> results and getting fast answers to small questions; we're not used
> to methodically reading introductory material and building a
> foundation of understanding, at least not to the extent required by
> Cocoa.
>
> When I was a NextStep programmer, it was clear to me that concepts
> docs came first, then reference docs. I don't know if NeXT did all
> that much to reinforce that mindset. It may just have been because
> I hadn't been spoiled on Google yet.
>
> (Not to knock Google. Searching for "blah site:developer.apple.com"
> is often -- not always, but often -- *much* more likely to return
> relevant hits than searching with the Xcode documentation window. I
> assume this is because Google has much more data and better
> algorithms to be able to assign relevancy to web pages. On the
> other hand, Google can't do a "Contains" search.)
>
> --Andy
| Related mails | Author | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Erik Buck | May 16, 23:05 | |
| Andy Lee | May 16, 23:42 | |
| Kevin Grant | May 17, 01:57 | |
| Gustavo Eulalio | May 17, 05:31 | |
| Johnny Lundy | May 17, 22:16 | |
| Jeff LaMarche | May 17, 22:36 | |
| Gary L. Wade | May 17, 23:42 | |
| Uli Kusterer | May 18, 00:34 | |
| Klaus Backert | May 18, 01:06 | |
| Scott Anguish | May 18, 21:30 |






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