Re: iPhone SDK is under NDA (was Re: iPhone SDK)

FROM : John Joyce
DATE : Mon Mar 31 22:36:52 2008

>
> On 29 Mar 2008, at 22:32, Andreas Höschler wrote:
>

>> Just afte rinstalling the iPhone sdk downloaded a few days ago I 
>> realized that there is even a newer SDK with some enhencements. I 
>> downloaded and installed that.

>
> The iPhone SDK is under NDA.  When you downloaded and installed it, 
> you promised to abide by a license agreement that says that you 
> can't talk about it.
>
> It *is* public knowledge that the iPhone SDK requires an Intel-
> based Mac.  It is also public knowledge that there is a second 
> version of the SDK.  But beyond that, unless the information in 
> question is public knowledge (which is defined in the license 
> agreement), you can't discuss it with anyone except Apple employees.
>
> It seems especially foolish to break this promise in this 
> particular instance, as Apple is going to act as a gatekeeper for 
> the App Store, and---depending on the seriousness of your license 
> breach---it could very well turn around and ask you why Apple 
> should trust you given that you broke your agreement last time 
> around.  I'm not saying it's likely to happen in this case (or 
> indeed in *any* case), but I do think a number of people are being 
> far too careless about the NDA (perhaps because they downloaded the 
> SDK for free and didn't read the license agreement they were 
> signing up to?)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Alastair.
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> From: Paul Sargent <<email_removed>>
> Date: March 31, 2008 11:01:11 AM CDT
> To: MacOSX-Dev List <<email_removed>>
> Subject: Re: iPhone SDK is under NDA (was Re: iPhone SDK)
>
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>
> On 31 Mar 2008, at 16:10, Alastair Houghton wrote:

>> On 29 Mar 2008, at 22:32, Andreas Höschler wrote:
>>

>>> Just afte rinstalling the iPhone sdk downloaded a few days ago I 
>>> realized that there is even a newer SDK with some enhencements. I 
>>> downloaded and installed that.

>>
>> The iPhone SDK is under NDA.  When you downloaded and installed 
>> it, you promised to abide by a license agreement that says that 
>> you can't talk about it.
>>
>> It *is* public knowledge that the iPhone SDK requires an Intel-
>> based Mac.

>
> Personally I think that any information that has been distributed 
> to 100,000+ people with no real screening process could also be 
> termed public knowledge.
>
> Sure Apple don't see it like that, but I don't really understand 
> the decision to put it under a click through NDA, and I'm not sure 
> any legal professional would expect it to hold up.
>
> (Sorry. Apple Developer Information and the NDAs is a pet peeve, 
> especially as they don't provide any forums for discussion)
>
>

I'm sure you would not feel the same way if the license agreement for 
your own software was violated...
When you agree to the license agreement, the keyword is agree...
By violating the terms you may well ruin it for yourself and others 
in the future.
Aside from that, you may well find trouble with Apple's legal 
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