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mlRe: Job Opportunity: Box Services hiring a full-time Cocoa User Interface Developer, New York City
FROM : Alastair Houghton
DATE : Thu Mar 20 18:37:22 2008

On 20 Mar 2008, at 16:23, objectwerks inc wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Alastair Houghton wrote:
>

>> On 20 Mar 2008, at 03:19, Mike wrote:

>>> DO NOT APPLY TO THIS JOB!
>>>
>>> Box Services is an opportunistic company which conducts fake 
>>> "interviews" of people in order to get their specialized knowledge 
>>> and then gives that knowledge to their cheap-labor programmers.
>>>
>>> They have NO intention of hiring you! Trust, me I did 2 phone 
>>> interviews with them and it's a scam!

>>
>> FWIW, I think this post does you no credit; any employer finding it 
>> is likely to think twice about hiring you, or, for that matter, 
>> asking you to attend an interview.

>
> This is not the first time this has come up.  Read the list archives 
> for the last few years


Indeed not.  That still doesn't change what I said, however.  Whether 
Box Ltd. is legitimate or not, Mike's post is potentially actionable 
and he's unlikely to be in possession of any evidence that would hold 
up in court.  Which makes it, at best, ill judged.

I've read through the archives and it sounds to me like it was most 
probably an unfortunate misunderstanding.  And maybe the interviewer 
in question was abusing the process, but then again maybe not, it's 
hard to tell; even if they were, Box Ltd. may not itself be to blame 
(it could just have been that one interviewer).  At the end of the day 
though, this post makes it sound like Mike has an axe to grind.  Not 
that I'm saying that he does---it just *sounds* that way.

If Mike had simply said that he felt that a previous phone interview 
with Box Ltd. had been abusive and warned people to be on their guard, 
it would be a different matter, but that's not what he did---instead, 
he told everyone not to apply for their jobs and claimed that "it's a 
scam".

Anyway, that's my two cents on the matter.  I don't know or have any 
relation to either Mike or Box Ltd.

For the benefit of others who are wondering what this is all about:

  <http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/archive/macosx-dev/2006-September/059338.html
>
  <http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/archive/macosx-dev/2006-September/059356.html
>

Kind regards,

Alastair.

--
http://alastairs-place.net

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