[Moderator] Re: The mouse is where, again?

FROM : Scott Anguish
DATE : Wed Jan 30 03:41:58 2008

Yes, sam is quite correct.  Please take this off-list

thanks

scott (moderator)


On Jan 28, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Sam Stigler wrote:

> This has gone on long enough.  I honestly don't care who's right, 
> but can you please take this off-list?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Hamish Allan wrote:
>

>> On Jan 28, 2008 8:02 PM, Jayson Adams <<email_removed>> 
>> wrote:
>>

>>> So yes, he was asking how you get the current mouse location, and 
>>> was
>>> believing there's no way to do it.

>>
>> Your willful disregard of the very next sentence after the bit you
>> quoted does not serve to illuminate anything. Here, again, is the
>> whole thing:
>>

>>> (C) How do I know where the mouse is, in the absence of (prior to
>>> receiving) a mouse-related event?
>>>
>>> -- There is not, afaik, any Cocoa frameworks function or method that
>>> gets the mouse location other than from a NSEvent. (It may exist 
>>> and I
>>> just haven't found it.)
>>>
>>> -- Getting the current mouse location using Carbon (if there is a
>>> function for that) isn't the answer, because that's going to tell me
>>> where the mouse is *right now in real time*, while the information I
>>> need is where the mouse is *synchronized with the event stream*. (If
>>> I'm about to receive a flood of mouseMoved: or mouseDragged: 
>>> messages,
>>> I want to know where the mouse is before them, not after. Unreceived
>>> messages represent the future, I'm still in the present.)

>>
>> I know you think that the real-time location is all that matters, but
>> you are wrong, and I think it's important to make that plain, because
>> you seem to be seeking to obfuscate it.
>>
>> Hamish
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