Re: The mouse is where, again?

FROM : Wesley Smith
DATE : Tue Jan 29 01:41:24 2008

Or battle it out with a sample app that proves your point.
wes

On Jan 28, 2008 4:31 PM, Sam Stigler <<email_removed>> wrote:
> This has gone on long enough.  I honestly don't care who's right, but
> can you please take this off-list?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Hamish Allan wrote:
>
> > On Jan 28, 2008 8:02 PM, Jayson Adams <<email_removed>> wrote:
> >
> >> So yes, he was asking how you get the current mouse location, and was
> >> believing there's no way to do it.
> >
> > Your willful disregard of the very next sentence after the bit you
> > quoted does not serve to illuminate anything. Here, again, is the
> > whole thing:
> >
> >> (C) How do I know where the mouse is, in the absence of (prior to
> >> receiving) a mouse-related event?
> >>
> >> -- There is not, afaik, any Cocoa frameworks function or method that
> >> gets the mouse location other than from a NSEvent. (It may exist
> >> and I
> >> just haven't found it.)
> >>
> >> -- Getting the current mouse location using Carbon (if there is a
> >> function for that) isn't the answer, because that's going to tell me
> >> where the mouse is *right now in real time*, while the information I
> >> need is where the mouse is *synchronized with the event stream*. (If
> >> I'm about to receive a flood of mouseMoved: or mouseDragged:
> >> messages,
> >> I want to know where the mouse is before them, not after. Unreceived
> >> messages represent the future, I'm still in the present.)
> >
> > I know you think that the real-time location is all that matters, but
> > you are wrong, and I think it's important to make that plain, because
> > you seem to be seeking to obfuscate it.
> >
> > Hamish
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