FROM : Derek Chesterfield
DATE : Mon Nov 05 01:03:14 2007
On 4 Nov 2007, at 23:47, Stephane Sudre wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:09 AM, Derek Chesterfield wrote:
>> On 4 Nov 2007, at 22:32, Nick Zitzmann wrote:
>>> On Nov 4, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the heads up. IMO that is terrible news though. I
>>>> personally hate package-based installers (big fan ofhttp://www.timdoug.com/unpkg/
>>>> )
>>>
>>> It makes perfect sense for me...
>> The way DMGs are typically packaged now - with nice layout and
>> background image explaining how to install right there - really
>> should be enough for most users.
>
> Background images are not localizable. Therefore, the instructions
> can only be useful to users that at least know a few words in English.
>
> Background images are not dynamic. The icon for the Applications
> folder has changed in Leopard. How do you deal with that when you
> use the icon for Tiger and earlier in your background image.
Two very good points. Thanks.
>> The problem with packages, is that to accommodate installation by
>> non-admin users to Applications, the installer must ask for
>> privileges, even if the user is an admin.
>
> Incorrect in Leopard. You can know define an installation domain.
> This means that you can install stuff to ˜/ without having to
> require the user to change the default destination or to enter an
> admin password.
But I want my apps in /Applications, not ~/Applications.
DATE : Mon Nov 05 01:03:14 2007
On 4 Nov 2007, at 23:47, Stephane Sudre wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:09 AM, Derek Chesterfield wrote:
>> On 4 Nov 2007, at 22:32, Nick Zitzmann wrote:
>>> On Nov 4, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the heads up. IMO that is terrible news though. I
>>>> personally hate package-based installers (big fan ofhttp://www.timdoug.com/unpkg/
>>>> )
>>>
>>> It makes perfect sense for me...
>> The way DMGs are typically packaged now - with nice layout and
>> background image explaining how to install right there - really
>> should be enough for most users.
>
> Background images are not localizable. Therefore, the instructions
> can only be useful to users that at least know a few words in English.
>
> Background images are not dynamic. The icon for the Applications
> folder has changed in Leopard. How do you deal with that when you
> use the icon for Tiger and earlier in your background image.
Two very good points. Thanks.
>> The problem with packages, is that to accommodate installation by
>> non-admin users to Applications, the installer must ask for
>> privileges, even if the user is an admin.
>
> Incorrect in Leopard. You can know define an installation domain.
> This means that you can install stuff to ˜/ without having to
> require the user to change the default destination or to enter an
> admin password.
But I want my apps in /Applications, not ~/Applications.






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