FROM : Corbin Dunn
DATE : Fri Nov 30 18:56:49 2007
>>
>>> The feature is long awaited and welcome. But it should have been
>>> mentioned in the App Kit release notes (it isn't), especially
>>> because it changes the behavior of existing software. Believe it
>>> or not, I actually have a case where the new behavior is
>>> undesirable. (It's very easy to turn off, once you know that you
>>> need to do so.)
>>>
>>
>> Type selection is a huge new feature, and it was tested in many
>> applications. Exactly what problem are you having with it in your
>> application? I'm curious why people have to turn it off. I know
>> some cases where it is required. For instance, Aperture turns it
>> off, since they interpret standard keystrokes as keyboard
>> shortcuts. In some ways, that is a disadvantage (I would love to
>> type select in aperture's project list).
>
> It's because we're redirecting most keystrokes in the window to a
> search field. It's a dictionary lookup tool; when browsing a
> dictionary, the obvious thing to want to do by typing is to look up
> a new word.
> – In one case, the table view that started grabbing some letters is
> short (only 10 entries) and acts as a source list. It clearly has
> much less need for keystrokes than the search field.
> – The other case will need a redesign, since there we are capturing
> the keystrokes to do our own version of type selection, basically
> for historical reasons. But until the redesign happens,
> NSTableView's type selection has to be turned off because the two
> schemes are competing and conflicting.
>
Thanks for the info! This is one of the reasons that we opted to allow
typeSelection to be turned off/on. We deemed it more useful to make
the default "on", even for apps not yet linking on Leopard.
Unfortunately, a few apps, such as yours, are affected by this. Sorry
about that!
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DATE : Fri Nov 30 18:56:49 2007
>>
>>> The feature is long awaited and welcome. But it should have been
>>> mentioned in the App Kit release notes (it isn't), especially
>>> because it changes the behavior of existing software. Believe it
>>> or not, I actually have a case where the new behavior is
>>> undesirable. (It's very easy to turn off, once you know that you
>>> need to do so.)
>>>
>>
>> Type selection is a huge new feature, and it was tested in many
>> applications. Exactly what problem are you having with it in your
>> application? I'm curious why people have to turn it off. I know
>> some cases where it is required. For instance, Aperture turns it
>> off, since they interpret standard keystrokes as keyboard
>> shortcuts. In some ways, that is a disadvantage (I would love to
>> type select in aperture's project list).
>
> It's because we're redirecting most keystrokes in the window to a
> search field. It's a dictionary lookup tool; when browsing a
> dictionary, the obvious thing to want to do by typing is to look up
> a new word.
> – In one case, the table view that started grabbing some letters is
> short (only 10 entries) and acts as a source list. It clearly has
> much less need for keystrokes than the search field.
> – The other case will need a redesign, since there we are capturing
> the keystrokes to do our own version of type selection, basically
> for historical reasons. But until the redesign happens,
> NSTableView's type selection has to be turned off because the two
> schemes are competing and conflicting.
>
Thanks for the info! This is one of the reasons that we opted to allow
typeSelection to be turned off/on. We deemed it more useful to make
the default "on", even for apps not yet linking on Leopard.
Unfortunately, a few apps, such as yours, are affected by this. Sorry
about that!
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| Related mails | Author | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Justin Bur | Nov 29, 01:03 | |
| Corbin Dunn | Nov 29, 01:28 | |
| Justin Bur | Nov 30, 03:43 | |
| Corbin Dunn | Nov 30, 18:56 |






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