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mlRe: ADC Select Membership
FROM : Tim Buchheim
DATE : Wed Apr 27 21:47:29 2005

On 4/27/05, Ricky Sharp <<email_removed>> wrote:
>
> Totally agree.  Seeding was much much better for Tiger than it was for earlier releases.


Yes, they did do a pretty good job of delivering new seed releases on
a regular schedule, and they've improved the change notes accompanying
releases, compared to the scant information provided in Panther seeds.
(They still have room for improvement in this area, though.)


> >>> And as it is, it looks like the GM is not the last seed we have
> >>> (reports from people receiving Tiger already say it is 8a428),
> >>> with no clues as to the differences.
> >
> >Yep - hard to test your software against a version you never got.
> >Heck, I have an rsync bug that rather matters to me, which may or may
> >not have been fixed.  Nobody is talking.

Yeah, this is crazy.  How can they expect anyone to test their
software against the final release when they don't provide a copy or
even give us a timeline of when to expect it.  I ended up ordering a
retail copy (luckily I can get it at education pricing) because who
knows how long it will take before ADC ships it.



> Personally, I feel the biggest issue is that there is no forum at all to discuss
> any NDA'd material.  There are so many new technologies in Tiger and I've
> been itching to get more information about them.  It would have also been
> very cool to discuss with other developers how integration with the new
> frameworks is going for them and any tips/tricks to pass along.


Yeah, that's definitely the biggest problem with Apple's seed process.
I have several Spotlight questions which I just can't ask anyone.
How hard can it be for them to set up a discussion forum?  Just use
the software from discussions.info.apple.com and stash it behind the
ADC login page.

This was the biggest complaint I heard during the Panther seeding,
too, so it's not as if Apple doesn't know that it's a problem.


I find the OS seeds valuable enough to make the cost of an ADC Select
membership worthwhile, but simply adding a forum would greatly
increase my happiness with the program.  The other thing I'd like to
see them add would be more videos from the WWDC.  We're paying them
$500 per year .. they ought to be able to send us a DVD.


--
Tim Buchheim

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