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Re: Aqua Human Interface and Safari
FROM : Buddy Kurz
DATE : Wed Jan 08 20:58:58 2003
My $.02...
Seems like if sheets are going to come out of textured windows there
should be a slot for them to come from. Maybe an animation where a dot
appears and widens into a slot which then allows the sheet to emerge
from the internal mechanism.
Did someone already complain about sheets on the calculator? The
convert menu selections put up sheets.
I am not offended by the metal look as some are but it seems like an
application like a browser which opens multiple windows is going to
really clutter the screen with metal. The browser could be considered
a 'physical device' which accesses the web but there aren't many
devices I can think of which duplicate themselves in your hands while
you are using them.
Having said that, I do like the look of Safari.
Finally,
isn't the HIG a Guide as opposed to a Law?
buddy kurz
>
> Actually, "sortof". The HIG says you shouldn't have a sheet come from
> a window that doesn't have a title bar, because it would look like the
> sheet came from "nowhere". That is to say, when there is a title bar,
> there's a nice line dividing it from the rest of the window. Sheets
> look like they come out from under this line, are anchored to this
> line, and then appear to be "rolled up" under this line.
>
> While textured windows have title bars, they have no line demarking
> the bar from any other part of the window. Thus there is nothing for
> the sheet to "roll under". It appears to pop out of the middle of the
> brushed aluminum surface and then just float there like a dialog
> (because there's no line there for it to anchor itself to, visually).
> That's what makes it look jarring.
>
> Anyway, in this case Apple is fallowing the letter of the law, but not
> the spirit.
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DATE : Wed Jan 08 20:58:58 2003
My $.02...
Seems like if sheets are going to come out of textured windows there
should be a slot for them to come from. Maybe an animation where a dot
appears and widens into a slot which then allows the sheet to emerge
from the internal mechanism.
Did someone already complain about sheets on the calculator? The
convert menu selections put up sheets.
I am not offended by the metal look as some are but it seems like an
application like a browser which opens multiple windows is going to
really clutter the screen with metal. The browser could be considered
a 'physical device' which accesses the web but there aren't many
devices I can think of which duplicate themselves in your hands while
you are using them.
Having said that, I do like the look of Safari.
Finally,
isn't the HIG a Guide as opposed to a Law?
buddy kurz
>
> Actually, "sortof". The HIG says you shouldn't have a sheet come from
> a window that doesn't have a title bar, because it would look like the
> sheet came from "nowhere". That is to say, when there is a title bar,
> there's a nice line dividing it from the rest of the window. Sheets
> look like they come out from under this line, are anchored to this
> line, and then appear to be "rolled up" under this line.
>
> While textured windows have title bars, they have no line demarking
> the bar from any other part of the window. Thus there is nothing for
> the sheet to "roll under". It appears to pop out of the middle of the
> brushed aluminum surface and then just float there like a dialog
> (because there's no line there for it to anchor itself to, visually).
> That's what makes it look jarring.
>
> Anyway, in this case Apple is fallowing the letter of the law, but not
> the spirit.
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