Re: Apple and Cocoa (why don't they eat their own dog food?)

FROM : Philip George
DATE : Sat Jan 11 12:27:00 2003

There are sufficient Cocoa/Carbon API's for rolling your own windows
and widgets.

  - pg


On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 03:59  AM, Steve Gehrman wrote:

> When is Apple going to start eating their own dog food?  Every "Cocoa"
> app Apple has release recently (except for Mail) uses custom buttons
> and controls and uses none of the standard Cocoa controls.  Obviously
> the standard Cocoa appearance is too ugly for Steve Jobs tastes.
>
> Take a quick look at Safari:
>
> - None of the buttons are standard Cocoa buttons (they are all images).
>
> - Not using a standard NSToolbar.  I've been waiting for years now for
> Apple to fix NSToolbar, but it still sucks and is super limited in
> features.
>
> - Not using the metallic window texture.  If you look at Safari, the
> top of the window is metallic, but the window resizing control at the
> bottom right is not. This is a problem that I had in my app.  When the
> window is set to the standard metallic texture, the window resize
> control gets really huge and ugly and it's too big and won't fit in
> the standard space below the scroll bar.
>
> I've only scratched the surface.  iCal, iTunes, iDVD, iMovie, Final
> Cut Pro, Address Book, etc all use custom controls.  If Apple would
> just fix Cocoa, all apps could look good and it would save them time
> too.
>
> Cocoa is still looks very "beta".  Apple - please fix Cocoa so our
> apps can look good too!! :)
>
> -steve
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