FROM : Marco Scheurer
DATE : Sat Dec 14 15:21:21 2002
> OpenStep for Windows-- which died with the name Yellow box-- was a
> wonderful environment for development work targeted to the deployment
> of applications into highly controlled, typically corporate,
> environments. It was not suitable for applications destined to more
> generic marketplaces.
Agreed. But the biggest problems for any deployment other than
corporate mission critical applications were the licensing and the
installation of the needed OPENSTEP resources (frameworks, daemons)
rather than a task scheduling problem. Definitely not accessible for
end-user software or shareware.
> b.bum
> (Who worked with Yellow/Windows for a number of years -- including
> doing development work targeted to deployment on that platform. It
> was unpleasant, certainly not of the quality that you would want to
> deploy without active sys-admin support.)
Over the years, we also developed and deployed many
YellowBox/EOF/Windows applications: it was not unpleasant, and
certainly less so than any available alternative for Windows
deployment. In fact, it was mostly pleasant: we were developing on
OPENSTEP/Intel and later on Mac, and only deploying on Windows (there's
a huge productivity gain when you're not compiling on Windows, among
other things).
Our installation scripts installed correctly the applications and
OPENSTEP when needed, and OPENSTEP-friendly Windows administrators were
not a requirement. Some of these apps included some heavy (DPS)
drawing, and rendering has rarely, if ever, been a problem. Many of
them are still in use today, on NT, 2000 or XP; and some are still
evolving: their replacements are usually late and cannot catch up...
Marco Scheurer
Sen:te, Lausanne, Switzerland http://www.sente.ch
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DATE : Sat Dec 14 15:21:21 2002
> OpenStep for Windows-- which died with the name Yellow box-- was a
> wonderful environment for development work targeted to the deployment
> of applications into highly controlled, typically corporate,
> environments. It was not suitable for applications destined to more
> generic marketplaces.
Agreed. But the biggest problems for any deployment other than
corporate mission critical applications were the licensing and the
installation of the needed OPENSTEP resources (frameworks, daemons)
rather than a task scheduling problem. Definitely not accessible for
end-user software or shareware.
> b.bum
> (Who worked with Yellow/Windows for a number of years -- including
> doing development work targeted to deployment on that platform. It
> was unpleasant, certainly not of the quality that you would want to
> deploy without active sys-admin support.)
Over the years, we also developed and deployed many
YellowBox/EOF/Windows applications: it was not unpleasant, and
certainly less so than any available alternative for Windows
deployment. In fact, it was mostly pleasant: we were developing on
OPENSTEP/Intel and later on Mac, and only deploying on Windows (there's
a huge productivity gain when you're not compiling on Windows, among
other things).
Our installation scripts installed correctly the applications and
OPENSTEP when needed, and OPENSTEP-friendly Windows administrators were
not a requirement. Some of these apps included some heavy (DPS)
drawing, and rendering has rarely, if ever, been a problem. Many of
them are still in use today, on NT, 2000 or XP; and some are still
evolving: their replacements are usually late and cannot catch up...
Marco Scheurer
Sen:te, Lausanne, Switzerland http://www.sente.ch
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