[OT] Re: To all cocoa developers - new cocoa dev forum

FROM : Richard Kendall Wolf
DATE : Thu Nov 07 20:51:55 2002

> John.<email_removed> meinte doch tatsdchlich:
>
>> Hi,
>> You should probably provide an English version for registration, for
>> those out there who don't spreach the deutsch...

That's those who "kein Deutsch koennen."  :-)

> wtf?  this... is... simply... AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!
>
> i NEVER thought i'd have to read such an ignorant post. especially on a
> cocoa-list sponsored by apple. ever thought of apple providing
> localized documentation? or even localized dev-apps? or the fact that
> the whole language is in english - where "human readable" makes me
> laugh every time...

I don't John meant any harm, though I do agree that he might have been
a little more sensitive to Cocoa's worldwide practitioners.  After all,
no one likes to see his/her language grammatically misused to prove a
point.  Meine Meinung nach is that if you want to use another language
to prove a point, at least try to learn the correct way to use that
language.  :-)  It's simply a sign of respect -- especially given that
German is that most widely spoken first language in the EU (if you
count a learned, second language, then English is the most widely
spoken).

However, anyone who has ever studied at a German university (I studied
at the Technische Universitaet Muenchen) knows that fluency in English
is a practical necessity -- especially in any technical industry.  Many
courses are taught in English (it simply states that a course will be
taught in English in course listings).  So, when I looked at the
website I thought, "Oh wow, this is cool ... kind of like a refresher
course in German" ... but then I thought, "Man, most people are
probably going to freak because this is mostly in German."  It's likely
that if the website wants to attract a more world-wide interest, that
it will have to be recast into something entirely in English.  And I
say that as someone who loves and respects German culture and the
German language.

By the way, my alma mater (the TUM) is one of the only universities I
know that teaches Cocoa as a "for credit" course.  :-)  Just something
to keep in mind whenever you think of Germany and Cocoa.  :-)

Mit fruendlichen Gruessen!
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