FROM : Yann Bizeul
DATE : Sun Nov 24 13:13:36 2002
I understand your point of view. I don't want to pay DTC, so i'm writing my own
for me and myself at first.
I wrote that I don't want to release a DTC like with no more features, I'll
release it for something different, and more powerfull. Right now, GeekTool is
just a prefpane launching an invisible app, that's a different approach, no
need to change Info.plist manually or launch scripts to change icon visibility.
I think GeekTool is justified and perhaps some people will prefer using DTC.
There are a lot of products around making the same thing, like
Fire/ICQ/Proteus... It's everybody's choice, and that make things go forward.
Quoting Simon Stapleton <<email_removed>>:
> From: Yann Bizeul <<email_removed>>
> >
> > That works perfectly !!!
> >
> > Thanks to you, I'm writing an app to display log files on the
> > background (it's called GeekTool ;-))
> > I write it because I do not want to pay DesktopConsole, but I will not
> > release it unitil I have more features (i.e. shell commands logging).
> > It will be opensource
>
> ISTR a recent thread bemoaning the lack of jobs and the fact that
> shareware authors aren't going to get rich any more.
>
> Now, maybe DesktopConsole is a very simple app, and maybe the pricing
> is way out there, but it's not that expensive. And it's pretty slick.
> Damn, it's even scriptable. It's quite nice, really, and the
> functionality is excessively useful for developers.
>
> As it happens, I don't use it - I hacked my own app together that does
> similar things, only monitors console.log, and does the things I wanted
> that DesktopConsole doesn't do. It took all of a couple of hours to
> write, although all configuration is through `defaults write ...` as
> opposed to a slick user interface. But I wrote it because DTC doesn't
> do what I want, wheras my app does. I didn't write it because I 'do
> not want to pay'. Still, if anyone feels the need to not pay for DTC,
> but fancies paying me, I can wrap a slick little prefs panel around my
> code and release it as non-cripppled shareware ;-)
>
> My point being that we can't have it both ways. Either pay for
> shareware, or stop moaning about the fact nobody pays for shareware...
>
> </rant>
>
> Simon
>
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DATE : Sun Nov 24 13:13:36 2002
I understand your point of view. I don't want to pay DTC, so i'm writing my own
for me and myself at first.
I wrote that I don't want to release a DTC like with no more features, I'll
release it for something different, and more powerfull. Right now, GeekTool is
just a prefpane launching an invisible app, that's a different approach, no
need to change Info.plist manually or launch scripts to change icon visibility.
I think GeekTool is justified and perhaps some people will prefer using DTC.
There are a lot of products around making the same thing, like
Fire/ICQ/Proteus... It's everybody's choice, and that make things go forward.
Quoting Simon Stapleton <<email_removed>>:
> From: Yann Bizeul <<email_removed>>
> >
> > That works perfectly !!!
> >
> > Thanks to you, I'm writing an app to display log files on the
> > background (it's called GeekTool ;-))
> > I write it because I do not want to pay DesktopConsole, but I will not
> > release it unitil I have more features (i.e. shell commands logging).
> > It will be opensource
>
> ISTR a recent thread bemoaning the lack of jobs and the fact that
> shareware authors aren't going to get rich any more.
>
> Now, maybe DesktopConsole is a very simple app, and maybe the pricing
> is way out there, but it's not that expensive. And it's pretty slick.
> Damn, it's even scriptable. It's quite nice, really, and the
> functionality is excessively useful for developers.
>
> As it happens, I don't use it - I hacked my own app together that does
> similar things, only monitors console.log, and does the things I wanted
> that DesktopConsole doesn't do. It took all of a couple of hours to
> write, although all configuration is through `defaults write ...` as
> opposed to a slick user interface. But I wrote it because DTC doesn't
> do what I want, wheras my app does. I didn't write it because I 'do
> not want to pay'. Still, if anyone feels the need to not pay for DTC,
> but fancies paying me, I can wrap a slick little prefs panel around my
> code and release it as non-cripppled shareware ;-)
>
> My point being that we can't have it both ways. Either pay for
> shareware, or stop moaning about the fact nobody pays for shareware...
>
> </rant>
>
> Simon
>
> --
> AppleCare. Now _there's_ an oxymoron for you.
> --
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| Related mails | Author | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Yann Bizeul | Nov 20, 21:59 | |
| Andreas Mayer | Nov 20, 22:53 | |
| Yann Bizeul | Nov 21, 12:17 | |
| m | Nov 21, 13:03 | |
| Michael Mulligan | Nov 21, 15:36 | |
| Daniel Zitter | Nov 21, 20:01 | |
| Simon Stapleton | Nov 22, 10:46 | |
| Yann Bizeul | Nov 24, 13:13 |






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