Re: Helvetica - International Systems?

FROM : Robert Cerny
DATE : Mon Nov 18 07:38:00 2002

Ehh,
you shouldn't even want to think about a possibility of buying a
world-wide license for Helvetica. It would cost tousands of dollars for
single weigth


Robert
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 03:15 PM, Philip George wrote:

> Hmmm...  I'm not so sure....
>
> I found several places last night where there are copyright symbols
> next to the Helvetica font:
>
> - When you "Show Info" on "Helvetica.dfont" in the Finder
> - On the Apple website
> - On the Linotype website
>
> The only one that's in "Show Info" that I couldn't find on the
> respective website is Type Solutions Inc.  There's no mention of
> Helvetica on their website, but they show partial copyright ownership
> in the "Show Info" window.  Not sure what's up with that.
>
> I don't mean to be contrary.  I'm just pointing out what I've seen so
> far.  If I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, I apologize.
>
> By the way, I totally polished that code using Rosyna's suggestion for
> loading a font directly from a font suitcase that's not located in one
> of the typical font repositories (FMActivateFonts()) (and thanks,
> Rosyna).  It works really, really well.  Now my app is completely
> impervious to people yanking Helvetica out of their Fonts folders,
> which is admittedly rare, but nonetheless possible.  Probably the
> highest probability for this would be if someone was using a font
> management app and disabled Helvetica temporarily for some reason. 
> That's not so unheard of.
>
> For clarification, this app has REALLY tight margins in a few spots
> where the font had to be very carefully chosen/sized/positioned.  Just
> letting any old font take its place may or may not work (usually not).
>  That's why I'm so nervous about it not being there.  And now that the
> code is written and streamlined, I'm finding it extra hard to comment
> it out.
>
> Anyway, if someone at Apple is listening in on this, please feel free
> to chime in.
>
> - Philip
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 07:25  AM, Clark S. Cox III wrote:
>

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>> On Sunday, Nov 17, 2002, at 18:22 US/Eastern, Jeremy Erwin wrote:
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>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 17, 2002, at 09:00  AM, Philip George wrote:

>>>> If not, what are the legal implications of including Helvetica with
>>>> my shareware?  Can I do that, since it comes with Mac OS X anyway? 
>>>> Will Adobe pounce on me?  Do I have to pay someone something to be
>>>> able to do that?

>>> Why would Adobe have a problem with this? Apple and Linotype AG own
>>> the copyright.

>>
>>     Just a little nit-pick: Fonts cannot be copyrighted; their names can
>> be trademarked, but they cannot be copyrighted.
>>
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