Re: metallized interface

FROM : Clark Mueller
DATE : Fri Nov 01 15:12:07 2002

Which brings forward another point. iChat. You can't say that having
Metal, Metal, Metal everywhere doesn't contribute to making iChat look
pretty bad, can you? And its sheets aren't Metal. Its Preference window
isn't Metal. Those are pretty much the best parts of the app! I'm not
sure what Apple's motivation was in making iChat the way they did, but
when they take another look at iChat all around, that needs to be one
of the issues addressed.

-c

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 10:31  PM, Phillip Hutchings wrote:

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> On Friday, Nov 1, 2002, at 13:14 Pacific/Auckland, Angela Brett wrote:
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>>> I have a 1.3ghz athlon with XP next to an 800mhz macosx powerbook at
>>> this minute. Give me macosx on the powerbook every single time!  Even
>>> though its unix, less HD thrashing, more stability and I can't say
>>> since 10.2 I've ever been bugged by slowness on macosx (other than
>>> the
>>> rediculously inadequate help viewer)
>>
>> Tell me about it! I have a 1.6GHz Pentium 4 at work, and it can be
>> much slower than my 466MHz G3 running OS X... it often takes several
>> (up to 50 - I've timed it) seconds to painstakingly draw a window
>> section by section. The only thing slow on Mac OS X is applications
>> starting up, and even then at least I can go off and do something
>> else while I wait. And XP is the king of GUI inconsistency... there
>> are 3 to 7 different visual styles of each kind of widget.
>
> I have an iMac 500Mhz CDRW with 640MB of RAM running 10.2, and a
> Compaq Presario 905 Athlon XP 1800+ (1.53GHz) DVD/CDRW with 256MB
> (shared) RAM. I can say conclusively that the iMac is far superior in
> graphics appearance. For example, my start menu on the windows machine
> takes about 1/2 second to draw after it's appeared, but none of my
> Mac's menus ever appear before they're drawn. Waiting with nothing on
> the screen is annoying, I wish the mac would highlight the menu title
> while drawing or something, but it's much better having things wait
> until drawn. And as for GUI inconsistency, XP is the greatest :) .NET
> applications look different from XP apps which look different to 9x
> apps.....
>
> Also, all of my mac (cocoa at least) has useful things like
> anti-aliasing (my laptop looks crisper, but that's because it's a
> LCD), inline spell checking, text-to-speech (with intelligible voices)
>  and a consistent behaviour. Carbon is slightly different, and I wish
> it wasn't, but it's livable. Finally, my scrollwheel works everywhere!
> My touchpad on the laptop uses a proprietary system that barely works
> in anything other than MS products.
>
> As for the topic of this discussion, notice how all the apple iApps
> (brushed metal ones) only ever have a single window? Sometimes pallets
> etc, but never multi window? I guess this is the intended interface,
> small utility apps, not something someone spends a lot of time working
> in, but looks at frequently for information. The 'Real World' metaphor
> explains this quite well. This is also why the finder isn't metal - it
> has multi windows.
>
>
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> Phillip Hutchings
> http://www.sitharus.com/
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