enormous problems with xcode

  • xcode is so buggy, I'm staying on jaguar for all serious development.
    I'm completely baffled at all the UI bugs this tool is riddled with.
    Things as trivial as having the enter key equivalent to clicking the
    default button in a dialog box are broken. Requesting single window
    editing is completely ignored. In many many cases, keyboard equivalent
    are not behaving trully as equivalent.

    my questions are:

    - is there a way to force xcode to behave like project builder?
    - is there a way to use project builder on panther?
    - when is apple planning to fix all these issues?

    stephane
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  • On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 02:47  pm, Stephane Huaulme wrote:

    > xcode is so buggy, I'm staying on jaguar for all serious development.
    > I'm completely baffled at all the UI bugs this tool is riddled with.
    > Things as trivial as having the enter key equivalent to clicking the
    > default button in a dialog box are broken. Requesting single window
    > editing is completely ignored. In many many cases, keyboard equivalent
    > are not behaving trully as equivalent.
    >
    > my questions are:
    >
    > - is there a way to force xcode to behave like project builder?

    No.  Xcode is Xcode and Project Builder is Project Builder.

    > - is there a way to use project builder on panther?

    AFAIK, No.

    > - when is apple planning to fix all these issues?

    Well, it won't be before you file a bug report telling them what issues
    there are.

    Kind regards,

    Alastair.
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  • On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 03:45  am, Danny Swarzman wrote:

    >
    > On Oct 27, 2003, at 7:09 AM, Alastair J.Houghton wrote:
    >
    >> On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 02:47  pm, Stephane Huaulme wrote:
    >>
    >> [snip]
    >
    >>
    >>> - is there a way to use project builder on panther?
    >>
    >> AFAIK, No.
    >>
    >> [snip]
    >
    > I'm not sure what AFAIK means but does this mean that if I build with
    > PB under Panther, the program build will not run under Panther. Will
    > it run under Jaguar?

    AFAIK = As Far As I Know

    I don't know whether Project Builder will work under Panther, and I'm
    not going to try installing it on any of my systems (because doing so
    could very well break something).  Even if it does work, Apple are very
    unlikely to support it.  Just use Xcode.

    > From the comments on this list, it looks like Xcode is too buggy for
    > serious work. Do I need to go back to Jaguar if I need want to develop
    > on Mac?

    I don't think that's fair.  I suspect Apple are using Xcode every
    day... indeed, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that they use it to
    build most of Mac OS X.

    Yes, there are a few problems, but that's hardly surprising, and I
    imagine that most of them will be ironed-out fairly quickly.  Most of
    the problems I've seen so far on the list haven't been show-stoppers,
    and Xcode has a *lot* of new features, many of them pretty handy
    (including the support for different SDKs, so, for example, you can use
    an OS X 10.1 SDK whilst running on OS X 10.3 and avoid even
    accidentally building code that won't run on 10.1).

    > Could it be that Xcode is today's MPW something Apple will drop and
    > leave users high and dry? Maybe the solution is to use non-Apple
    > development systems.

    Well, there's always CodeWarrior, I suppose.  I don't really think
    Apple are going to leave us high and dry with Xcode, and anyone who
    says otherwise is scaremongering, IMHO.

    Kind regards,

    Alastair.
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