RE: Flash In NSView - without NSWebView

  • Hello,

    am Julia Rixon from Eltima Software. Our company has recently released
    just that very software solution you are looking for - Flash'In'App:

    http://www.eltima.com/products/cocoa-framework/

    Flash'In'App is a free Cocoa framework that lets you load and fully
    manage AdobeĀ® Flash movies directly from your own applications for Mac
    OS X. Flash'In'App is a set of several specific classes to manage and
    fully control all the aspects of Flash manipulations in your application.

    Flash'In'App will help you:
    - Playback any Flash movie inside of your application (a banner, a
    tutorial, anything)

    - Completely re-design your application using the latest possibilities
    of Flash, make it stand out and match your exquisite design and
    user-interactivity requirements without the need to develop custom
    controls, etc.

    - Develop and deploy eye-catching high quality interactive interfaces
    with minimum effort in Flash

    - Distribute Flash-enabled desktop widgets, Flash games as compiled
    applications

    - Create custom-shaped applications (Intel-based Macs only)

    - Run your Windows Flash-enabled applications' GUI on Mac

    Hope it helps.

    --
    Sincerely yours,

    Julia Rixon
    Marketing Specialist

    Eltima Software
    <julia.rixon...>

    +1 425 748 5166 / US (PST)
    +1 360 312 7638 / US (CET)
    +44 131 208 3240 / UK

    Redmond Center
    2018 156th Ave NE, Suite 100
    Bellevue, WA 98007
    USA

    Home: http://www.eltima.com
    Blog: http://blog.eltima.com

    > Hello,
    >
    > I would like to use a Flash movie as my GUI to interface my Mac app.
    > Several people have suggested that I use NSWebView. I suppose that could
    > work but that would require (1) all the resources of the web-browser,
    > (2) a thin java-script wrapper layer.
    >
    > I am really a Windows developer. In Windows we solved this by loading
    > the Flash ocx directly into a dialog. Works great. No HTML/JS.
    >
    > So my question is how could I (in general principle) do something
    > similar (without using NSWebWiew) in Cocoa?
    >
    > Thanks
    > Adam
  • Hi!  I don't think that Flash is by any means a bad thing, but doesn't
    using it -- as the *main* GUI for an app -- tend to pose potential
    accessibility problems?  Full keyboard access may not work quite as a
    user is expecting; GUI scripting probably won't work at all; VoiceOver
    would falter; and is there any chance that assistive devices would
    work with it? (maybe there is, I just don't know); etc...  Your hard-
    of-seeing and disabled users will thank you for doing your app's main
    GUI in Cocoa.

    -- Andrew

    On Oct 8, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Julia Rixon wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > am Julia Rixon from Eltima Software. Our company has recently
    > released just that very software solution you are looking for -
    > Flash'In'App:
    >
    > http://www.eltima.com/products/cocoa-framework/
    >
    > Flash'In'App is a free Cocoa framework that lets you load and fully
    > manage AdobeĀ® Flash movies directly from your own applications for
    > Mac OS X. Flash'In'App is a set of several specific classes to
    > manage and fully control all the aspects of Flash manipulations in
    > your application.
    >
    > Flash'In'App will help you:
    > - Playback any Flash movie inside of your application (a banner, a
    > tutorial, anything)
    >
    > - Completely re-design your application using the latest
    > possibilities of Flash, make it stand out and match your exquisite
    > design and user-interactivity requirements without the need to
    > develop custom controls, etc.
    >
    > - Develop and deploy eye-catching high quality interactive
    > interfaces with minimum effort in Flash
    >
    > - Distribute Flash-enabled desktop widgets, Flash games as compiled
    > applications
    >
    > - Create custom-shaped applications (Intel-based Macs only)
    >
    > - Run your Windows Flash-enabled applications' GUI on Mac
    >
    > Hope it helps.
    >
    > --
    > Sincerely yours,
    >
    > Julia Rixon
    > Marketing Specialist
    >
    > Eltima Software
    > <julia.rixon...>
    >
    > +1 425 748 5166 / US (PST)
    > +1 360 312 7638 / US (CET)
    > +44 131 208 3240 / UK
    >
    > Redmond Center
    > 2018 156th Ave NE, Suite 100
    > Bellevue, WA 98007
    > USA
    >
    > Home: http://www.eltima.com
    > Blog: http://blog.eltima.com
    >
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I would like to use a Flash movie as my GUI to interface my Mac app.
    >> Several people have suggested that I use NSWebView. I suppose that
    > could
    >> work but that would require (1) all the resources of the web-
    > browser,
    >> (2) a thin java-script wrapper layer.
    >>
    >> I am really a Windows developer. In Windows we solved this by
    > loading
    >> the Flash ocx directly into a dialog. Works great. No HTML/JS.
    >>
    >> So my question is how could I (in general principle) do something
    >> similar (without using NSWebWiew) in Cocoa?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >> Adam
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  • Hi,
    Valid points, but we have been using Flash for our Win app for ages. Now
    we want to port it to Mac. Adobe Flex has got a decent framework for
    keyboard stuff. Other devices, I do not know...

    Adam


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Andrew Merenbach [mailto:<andrew.merenbach...>]
    Sent: den 8 oktober 2008 16:54
    To: Julia Rixon
    Cc: Adam Horvath; <macosx-dev...>
    Subject: Re: Flash In NSView - without NSWebView

    Hi!  I don't think that Flash is by any means a bad thing, but doesn't
    using it -- as the *main* GUI for an app -- tend to pose potential
    accessibility problems?  Full keyboard access may not work quite as a
    user is expecting; GUI scripting probably won't work at all; VoiceOver
    would falter; and is there any chance that assistive devices would work
    with it? (maybe there is, I just don't know); etc...  Your hard-
    of-seeing and disabled users will thank you for doing your app's main
    GUI in Cocoa.

    -- Andrew

    On Oct 8, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Julia Rixon wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > am Julia Rixon from Eltima Software. Our company has recently released

    > just that very software solution you are looking for -
    > Flash'In'App:
    >
    > http://www.eltima.com/products/cocoa-framework/
    >
    > Flash'In'App is a free Cocoa framework that lets you load and fully
    > manage Adobe(r) Flash movies directly from your own applications for
    Mac
    > OS X. Flash'In'App is a set of several specific classes to manage and
    > fully control all the aspects of Flash manipulations in your
    > application.
    >
    > Flash'In'App will help you:
    > - Playback any Flash movie inside of your application (a banner, a
    > tutorial, anything)
    >
    > - Completely re-design your application using the latest possibilities

    > of Flash, make it stand out and match your exquisite design and
    > user-interactivity requirements without the need to develop custom
    > controls, etc.
    >
    > - Develop and deploy eye-catching high quality interactive interfaces
    > with minimum effort in Flash
    >
    > - Distribute Flash-enabled desktop widgets, Flash games as compiled
    > applications
    >
    > - Create custom-shaped applications (Intel-based Macs only)
    >
    > - Run your Windows Flash-enabled applications' GUI on Mac
    >
    > Hope it helps.
    >
    > --
    > Sincerely yours,
    >
    > Julia Rixon
    > Marketing Specialist
    >
    > Eltima Software
    > <julia.rixon...>
    >
    > +1 425 748 5166 / US (PST)
    > +1 360 312 7638 / US (CET)
    > +44 131 208 3240 / UK
    >
    > Redmond Center
    > 2018 156th Ave NE, Suite 100
    > Bellevue, WA 98007
    > USA
    >
    > Home: http://www.eltima.com
    > Blog: http://blog.eltima.com
    >
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I would like to use a Flash movie as my GUI to interface my Mac app.
    >> Several people have suggested that I use NSWebView. I suppose that
    > could
    >> work but that would require (1) all the resources of the web-
    > browser,
    >> (2) a thin java-script wrapper layer.
    >>
    >> I am really a Windows developer. In Windows we solved this by
    > loading
    >> the Flash ocx directly into a dialog. Works great. No HTML/JS.
    >>
    >> So my question is how could I (in general principle) do something
    >> similar (without using NSWebWiew) in Cocoa?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >> Adam
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