Need just a little more Interface Builder assistance

  • I posted the below message to the XCode list but never got any
    replies.  I'm posting it here in the hopes that someone will be able
    to guide me through keyboard navigation of IB.  Thanks.

    Josh de Lioncourt
    <overlord...>

    ...my other mail provider is an owl...

    Begin forwarded message:

    > From: Josh de Lioncourt <overlord...>
    > Date: 13 December, 2007 6:55:08 PM PST
    > To: <xcode-users...>
    > Subject: Need some Interface Builder assistance
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm a totally blind developer, trying to come to grips with Cocoa
    > and XCode using the Mac's built-in screen reader, VoiceOver.
    > Interface Builder is proving to be quite a problem, which I've
    > discussed with a number of people on various lists and through
    > various channels.
    >
    > I've been told that, while not a very good solution, I should be
    > able to work my way through adding a control to an interface with
    > the keyboard by selecting it in the Library window and pressing
    > Enter.  Once it is added, I can position and size the control
    > through the Inspector windows.
    >
    > While the scroll area that contains the controls is not accessible
    > with VoiceOver, the descriptions beneath it are.  I can monitor the
    > change in description to select the control I need, and pressing
    > enter in some situations adds the control to the top level of the
    > NIB.  That isn't very useful if I want, for instance, a NSTextView
    > in a window, and so far as i've been able to determine, there is no
    > way, via the keyboard, to add a control object to a window...or,
    > even, to make any control a child of any other.
    >
    > I've been told this should be possible, and I'm hoping someone here
    > can give me some guidance as to how.  It may be obvious, and I'm
    > missing it because the IB application is lacking in accessibility.
    >
    > I'm coming from a long history of WIndows development, so please
    > bear with me. :)
    >
    >
    > Josh de Lioncourt
    > <overlord...>
    >
    > ...my other mail provider is an owl...
    >
    >
    >
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  • Not really a direct answer to your question, but have you looked at
    Renaissance?

        <http://www.gnustep.it/Renaissance/>

    Don't worry - the docs are in English, despite the .it domain. :-)

    sherm--

    On Dec 14, 2007 3:40 PM, Josh de Lioncourt <overlord...> wrote:

    >
    > I posted the below message to the XCode list but never got any
    > replies.  I'm posting it here in the hopes that someone will be able
    > to guide me through keyboard navigation of IB.  Thanks.
    >
    > Josh de Lioncourt
    > <overlord...>
    >
    > ...my other mail provider is an owl...
    >
    >
    >
    > Begin forwarded message:
    >
    >> From: Josh de Lioncourt <overlord...>
    >> Date: 13 December, 2007 6:55:08 PM PST
    >> To: <xcode-users...>
    >> Subject: Need some Interface Builder assistance
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I'm a totally blind developer, trying to come to grips with Cocoa
    >> and XCode using the Mac's built-in screen reader, VoiceOver.
    >> Interface Builder is proving to be quite a problem, which I've
    >> discussed with a number of people on various lists and through
    >> various channels.
    >>
    >> I've been told that, while not a very good solution, I should be
    >> able to work my way through adding a control to an interface with
    >> the keyboard by selecting it in the Library window and pressing
    >> Enter.  Once it is added, I can position and size the control
    >> through the Inspector windows.
    >>
    >> While the scroll area that contains the controls is not accessible
    >> with VoiceOver, the descriptions beneath it are.  I can monitor the
    >> change in description to select the control I need, and pressing
    >> enter in some situations adds the control to the top level of the
    >> NIB.  That isn't very useful if I want, for instance, a NSTextView
    >> in a window, and so far as i've been able to determine, there is no
    >> way, via the keyboard, to add a control object to a window...or,
    >> even, to make any control a child of any other.
    >>
    >> I've been told this should be possible, and I'm hoping someone here
    >> can give me some guidance as to how.  It may be obvious, and I'm
    >> missing it because the IB application is lacking in accessibility.
    >>
    >> I'm coming from a long history of WIndows development, so please
    >> bear with me. :)
    >>
    >>
    >> Josh de Lioncourt
    >> <overlord...>
    >>
    >> ...my other mail provider is an owl...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> _______________________________________________
    >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
    >> Xcode-users mailing list      (<Xcode-users...>)
    >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
    >>
    > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/xcode-users/<overlord...>
    >>
    >> This email sent to <overlord...>

    >
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