Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1137

  • > I'm a professor at University of Montreal in Canada, and my lab does a
    > fair bit of Cocoa programming for analysis of MRI data.
    >
    > It's become clear that there is much less opportunity for learning Obj-
    > C & Cocoa in most universities than - say - learning Java and C++.
    > Currently our comp-sci department offers courses in the following
    > programming languages:  C, C++, Java, VB, C#.  McGill University
    > offers courses in C, C++, Scheme, and Java.  Concordia University
    > offers courses in C++ and Java, and lists required software for its
    > courses as Eclipse, .NET, Visual Studio, etc.
    >
    > I'm in the early stages of evaluating whether a course on Cocoa and
    > Objective-C would be feasible at my institution, and was wondering
    > what's already out there - specifically:
    >
    > - has anyone taken any kind of secondary (high-school) or post-
    > secondary (i.e. undergrad/bachelors) course in Cocoa programming?
    >
    > - has anyone taken a course on Objective-C that was not specifically
    > about Cocoa?
    >
    > - has anyone heard of such a course anywhere?
    >
    > I am particularly interested in whether any such courses exist in the
    > Montreal area, but of course would also like to hear about them
    > anywhere.  Any feedback on the experience (was it useful, was it well
    > attended, how did it come about, what department offered it) would be
    > greatly appreciated.  I'm kind of worried that if I suggest it to our
    > comp-sci department, they'll laugh me out of the room.
    >
    > I know there are plenty of ways to learn Cocoa and that most of us on
    > this list just learned it ourselves.  However as the Apple platform
    > grows in market share, it seems like less of a crazy idea that a
    > university course on developing under this platform should at least be
    > an option.  As far as I can tell there is almost a complete vacuum in
    > Montreal.

    Have you looked at what the Big Nerd Ranch provides?

    http://www.bignerdranch.com/classes/cocoa_combined.shtml

    I haven't taken any of their courses, but "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X"
    has got to be one of my all-time favorite books, and the author, Aaron
    Hillegass, is one of the instructors at the Big Nerd Ranch.  Instead of
    creating a class on your own, you may be able to talk them into teaching a
    course.

    Good luck,
    Cem Karan
  • the Stanford CS dept offers this course - Cocoa and Obj C
    you can web it up to find the link.

    hope this helps.

    On 11/8/07, Army Research Lab <ckaran...> wrote:
    >
    >> I'm a professor at University of Montreal in Canada, and my lab does a
    >> fair bit of Cocoa programming for analysis of MRI data.
    >>
    >> It's become clear that there is much less opportunity for learning Obj-
    >> C & Cocoa in most universities than - say - learning Java and C++.
    >> Currently our comp-sci department offers courses in the following
    >> programming languages:  C, C++, Java, VB, C#.  McGill University
    >> offers courses in C, C++, Scheme, and Java.  Concordia University
    >> offers courses in C++ and Java, and lists required software for its
    >> courses as Eclipse, .NET, Visual Studio, etc.
    >>
    >> I'm in the early stages of evaluating whether a course on Cocoa and
    >> Objective-C would be feasible at my institution, and was wondering
    >> what's already out there - specifically:
    >>
    >> - has anyone taken any kind of secondary (high-school) or post-
    >> secondary (i.e. undergrad/bachelors) course in Cocoa programming?
    >>
    >> - has anyone taken a course on Objective-C that was not specifically
    >> about Cocoa?
    >>
    >> - has anyone heard of such a course anywhere?
    >>
    >> I am particularly interested in whether any such courses exist in the
    >> Montreal area, but of course would also like to hear about them
    >> anywhere.  Any feedback on the experience (was it useful, was it well
    >> attended, how did it come about, what department offered it) would be
    >> greatly appreciated.  I'm kind of worried that if I suggest it to our
    >> comp-sci department, they'll laugh me out of the room.
    >>
    >> I know there are plenty of ways to learn Cocoa and that most of us on
    >> this list just learned it ourselves.  However as the Apple platform
    >> grows in market share, it seems like less of a crazy idea that a
    >> university course on developing under this platform should at least be
    >> an option.  As far as I can tell there is almost a complete vacuum in
    >> Montreal.
    >
    > Have you looked at what the Big Nerd Ranch provides?
    >
    > http://www.bignerdranch.com/classes/cocoa_combined.shtml
    >
    > I haven't taken any of their courses, but "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X"
    > has got to be one of my all-time favorite books, and the author, Aaron
    > Hillegass, is one of the instructors at the Big Nerd Ranch.  Instead of
    > creating a class on your own, you may be able to talk them into teaching a
    > course.
    >
    > Good luck,
    > Cem Karan
    >
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