Cocoa developer needed in Texas

  • Cocoa developer

    Required Skills
    - 2 years of experience coding with Cocoa and C++ on Mac OS X, at least
    one year professionally
    - Must be an excellent hands-on implementer with strong object oriented
    C++ programming skills
    - Strong analytical, diagnostic and problem-solving skills with ability
    to generate new ideas and work independently
    - Have a strong passion for building cutting-edge Mac applications in a
    team of OS internals experts
    - Knowledge of internet protocols such as TCP/IP, HTTP and HTTPS
    - Familiarity with the x86 and PowerPC architectures including virtual
    memory, privilege levels and assembly language
    - Ability to tackle complex software issues such as deadlocks and
    exceptions using gdb
    - Cross-platform development experience
    - Knowledge of OS X internals and/or device driver development
    - Degree in EE or computer science
  • I always wonder why, job posters want Cocoa Developers, with strong C+
    + background. As far as I know, if you really want to build
    Applications using Cocoa, you have to use Objective-C and not C++.

    In my opinion, this is a huge discrepancy . I think, if you really
    want Cocoa there's no way around Objective-C.

    Or am I missing something here?

    regards
    Joachim

    Am 19.10.2007 um 00:18 schrieb <adaniels...>:

    > Cocoa developer
    >
    > Required Skills
    > - 2 years of experience coding with Cocoa and C++ on Mac OS X, at
    > least
    > one year professionally
    > - Must be an excellent hands-on implementer with strong object
    > oriented
    > C++ programming skills
    > - Strong analytical, diagnostic and problem-solving skills with
    > ability
    > to generate new ideas and work independently
    > - Have a strong passion for building cutting-edge Mac applications
    > in a
    > team of OS internals experts
    > - Knowledge of internet protocols such as TCP/IP, HTTP and HTTPS
    > - Familiarity with the x86 and PowerPC architectures including virtual
    > memory, privilege levels and assembly language
    > - Ability to tackle complex software issues such as deadlocks and
    > exceptions using gdb
    > - Cross-platform development experience
    > - Knowledge of OS X internals and/or device driver development
    > - Degree in EE or computer science
  • On Oct 19, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Joachim Deelen wrote:

    > I always wonder why, job posters want Cocoa Developers, with strong
    > C++ background. As far as I know, if you really want to build
    > Applications using Cocoa, you have to use Objective-C and not C++.
    >
    > In my opinion, this is a huge discrepancy . I think, if you really
    > want Cocoa there's no way around Objective-C.
    >
    > Or am I missing something here?

    Possibilities:
    1) They are converting some project from C++ to something sane.
    2) They have a cross-platform product with C++ as the model and want
    to use Cocoa as the Mac interface, but keep the heart in C++ for some
    other OS.
    3) Clueless HR types - it's the last entry in their list of buzzwords.

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  • Two obvious things you might be missing:

    - app factored so that UI is Cocoa/ObjC, model is C++. Good balance
    between cross-platform deployment and Mac user experience.

    - existing mature tech that is written in C++ that would be nice to
    expose to users through a Cocoa based UI.

    _murat

    On Oct 19, 2007, at 11:58 AM, Joachim Deelen wrote:

    > I always wonder why, job posters want Cocoa Developers, with strong
    > C++ background. As far as I know, if you really want to build
    > Applications using Cocoa, you have to use Objective-C and not C++.
    >
    > In my opinion, this is a huge discrepancy . I think, if you really
    > want Cocoa there's no way around Objective-C.
    >
    > Or am I missing something here?
    >
    > regards
    > Joachim
    >
    > Am 19.10.2007 um 00:18 schrieb <adaniels...>:
    >
    >> Cocoa developer
    >>
    >> Required Skills
    >> - 2 years of experience coding with Cocoa and C++ on Mac OS X, at
    >> least
    >> one year professionally
    >> - Must be an excellent hands-on implementer with strong object
    >> oriented
    >> C++ programming skills
    >> - Strong analytical, diagnostic and problem-solving skills with
    >> ability
    >> to generate new ideas and work independently
    >> - Have a strong passion for building cutting-edge Mac applications
    >> in a
    >> team of OS internals experts
    >> - Knowledge of internet protocols such as TCP/IP, HTTP and HTTPS
    >> - Familiarity with the x86 and PowerPC architectures including
    >> virtual
    >> memory, privilege levels and assembly language
    >> - Ability to tackle complex software issues such as deadlocks and
    >> exceptions using gdb
    >> - Cross-platform development experience
    >> - Knowledge of OS X internals and/or device driver development
    >> - Degree in EE or computer science

  • On Oct 19, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Joachim Deelen wrote:

    > I always wonder why, job posters want Cocoa Developers, with strong C
    > ++ background. As far as I know, if you really want to build
    > Applications using Cocoa, you have to use Objective-C and not C++.
    >
    > In my opinion, this is a huge discrepancy . I think, if you really
    > want Cocoa there's no way around Objective-C.
    >
    > Or am I missing something here?

    Yes. That this isn't a discussion for this list. :-)

    Cocoa Job postings are fine (although they should be run past the
    admins first if they are anything borderline)
    Discussion of the job postings isn't really appropriate for the list.
  • <changing the topic, as the question IS a valid Cocoa question>
    > As far as I know, if you really want to build
    > Applications using Cocoa, you have to use Objective-C and not C++.
    >
    > In my opinion, this is a huge discrepancy . I think, if you really
    > want Cocoa there's no way around Objective-C.
    >
    > Or am I missing something here?
    What you're missing is that you can mix C++ and Cocoa/Objective-C.  Others have pointed out why you might want that.  To combine Objective-C and C++, your files need to end in ".mm" vs ".m" for Objective-C only.

    Mark
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